Comedy. Police murder a man on his wedding day and the three of them are free.

 Al Sharpton holds a rally and he is arrested.

A man with a prior criminal record was believed to be going for a gun and wound up shot. Oh, but wait, he is black, so it had to be murder, and racially motivated at that. Give it a rest, man. 

As for Al Sharpton, any Black person with a grain of sense should be wishing he would just take his pompous ass and go home, because he only hurts the cause of Black Americans everywhere. Yes, that is right, hurts. Do you think that hate begats good things?

^^ So the cops, NOT IN UNIFORM, knew the guy had a "criminal record" before they shot him?

Did "Judge Dredd" shoot him?

lmao. 

 You do know that two of the cops that shot him were black right? So before you go around claiming that I'm saying this is race motivated take a step back. your own ignorance may have led you to not realize that. Oh and yes, let us never forget that a police report is never manipulated and fabricated to paint a pure and perfect picture for the code of blue. This is a situation of police over crossing their boundries once again.

As for your comment that Al Sharpton should go home sounds like a typical answer of a person who is brainwashed and easily manipulated by media hysteria. Al Sharpton has done more for single towns then most people can even try to imagine to do in their own living room. While I do not agree with everything that he does I agree with a great deal. Only brainwashed people beleive that he is more harm then good. It's media and political propoganda which continues to downplay the work that this man has done just as they did to the work of Malcolm X and Cesar Chavez.

  Sadly enough a simple minded person such as yourself would not understand that. Now let me hurt your feelings. The easter bunny is evil, Santa Clause is not real. Let me take a guess, you think Amado Dialo deserved to be shot 36 times also and the people that murdered him deserve to continue living.

When it comes to Hate vs Good just remember that Jesus who looks more like Osama Bin Ladden then the hippy (sorry that's a fact) painted on fragile glass which a stone can break through was killed by the police who fabricated their reports and painted him as a fraud. No matter what religion you are you would know that's not punishable by death. Unfortunately it has happened.

 Open up your eyes my son. It would do you good. God's Son has spoken to you directly so don't hear the words but listen to the msg.

Murrog:

A man with a prior criminal record was believed to be going for a gun and wound up shot. Oh, but wait, he is black, so it had to be murder, and racially motivated at that. Give it a rest, man. 

As for Al Sharpton, any Black person with a grain of sense should be wishing he would just take his pompous ass and go home, because he only hurts the cause of Black Americans everywhere. Yes, that is right, hurts. Do you think that hate begats good things?

So in your world, cops are justified for killing unarmed people as long as they say "I thought he was reaching for a gun"?

*** that, and *** cops.

..and *** you too Murrog you moronic piece of ***.

I still think it was racism.  Cops of all races are taught racial profiling and a general distrust of black and latino people.

xduckshoex:

I still think it was racism.  Cops of all races are taught racial profiling and a general distrust of black and latino people.

Yes.   Remember that black cop in Boyz N The Hood?  Can you really not imagine that *** happening in real life?

 

Murrog:

A man with a prior criminal record was believed to be going for a gun and wound up shot. Oh, but wait, he is black, so it had to be murder, and racially motivated at that. Give it a rest, man. 

As for Al Sharpton, any Black person with a grain of sense should be wishing he would just take his pompous ass and go home, because he only hurts the cause of Black Americans everywhere. Yes, that is right, hurts. Do you think that hate begats good things?

Well said.   

xduckshoex:

I still think it was racism.  Cops of all races are taught racial profiling and a general distrust of black and latino people.

are they taught that or is there some reason for them to do that.  behind "racial profiling" is some sort of credence to the stereotypes. young, middle eastern men are going to arise more suspicion to be a suicide bomber or terrorist than some white college frat dude.  a nerd in a trench coat is more likely to go shoot up a school.  blacks and latino men are probably going to be more likely to be in a gang than some asian dude wearing a polo shirt.  

 No, they are taught that.

And your "credence to stereotypes" is just more racism.  Black people may draw more suspicion based on crime figures, but those crime figures are higher because black people are also specifically targeted.  It's a chicken vs. the egg scenario...either black people are more inclined to criminal activities by nature or there are circumstances behind the figures that we have to look at.  Black people are 12 times as likely to be arrested and convicted for a drug offense according to recent statistics, is that because there are 12 times as many black drug users?  Of course not.  It's because they are profiled and targeted, and then the figures that result from the profiling are used to legitimize more racial profiling and distrust of black people. 

Who is taught that? The police?  What course is that in Police Academy?  

In black culture, there is a definite aspect in which the criminal world is glorified.  I don't see that in the "white" culture or "asian" culture.  Drugs and crime are celebrated, and you're shocked when people fore stereotypes? 

I know you're not stupid enough to believe that they actually have a course called "Racial Profiling 101"  It doesn't mean they don't learn it though.  I'm going on what I have heard from actual cops who have realized how fucked up that *** is and quit the force.

And *** "black culture" glorifying drugs and crime.  Everybody knows white people co-opted that culture years ago, yet that has never been reflected in crime figures.  But no, I'm not shocked that people form stereotypes, I'm just saying we shouldn't ignore the root of them.  Do you really think that black people are naturally predisposed to criminal activity?  Just come out and say it if you really believe it.  If you don't believe it, then you have no reason to believe that the higher incarceration rate for black people is not the result of racial profiling by the police.

Xskball:

Who is taught that? The police?  What course is that in Police Academy?  

 

In black culture, there is a definite aspect in which the criminal world is glorified.  I don't see that in the "white" culture or "asian" culture.  Drugs and crime are celebrated, and you're shocked when people fore stereotypes? 

 I'm sorry all I understand from you is something about cat fried rice and kung pao dog. We don't do that over here chop stix.

-Racist posts like that will not be tolerated on the HW Messageboard. Further racist posts like this will result in you being banned.

xduckshoex:

And *** "black culture" glorifying drugs and crime.  Everybody knows white people co-opted that culture years ago, yet that has never been reflected in crime figures.  But no, I'm not shocked that people form stereotypes, I'm just saying we shouldn't ignore the root of them.  Do you really think that black people are naturally predisposed to criminal activity?  Just come out and say it if you really believe it.  If you don't believe it, then you have no reason to believe that the higher incarceration rate for black people is not the result of racial profiling by the police.

 I think there is something to that thought that blacks are more inclined to participate in criminal activity. I do believe it is more cultural and a result of upbringing versus a "natural" predisposition (i.e. biological), although there may be some kind of factor in there.

xduckshoex:

Do you really think that black people are naturally predisposed to criminal activity?  Just come out and say it if you really believe it.  If you don't believe it, then you have no reason to believe that the higher incarceration rate for black people is not the result of racial profiling by the police.

Not sure if your logic really works there.

But maybe you are just oversimplifying things for effect - obviously, there are many factors that might lead to a higher incarceration for black people (profiling, economics, racism, culture, society, etc).
 

Yeast:

Not sure if your logic really works there.

But maybe you are just oversimplifying things for effect - obviously, there are many factors that might lead to a higher incarceration for black people (profiling, economics, racism, culture, society, etc).
 

Nope. No black person EVER commited any crime in history, it was all Racial Profiling by other black police officers.

Yeast:

xduckshoex:

Do you really think that black people are naturally predisposed to criminal activity?  Just come out and say it if you really believe it.  If you don't believe it, then you have no reason to believe that the higher incarceration rate for black people is not the result of racial profiling by the police.

 

Not sure if your logic really works there.

But maybe you are just oversimplifying things for effect - obviously, there are many factors that might lead to a higher incarceration for black people (profiling, economics, racism, culture, society, etc).
 

I was definitely oversimplifying, but I don't think the factors that you mention play the large part that people want to think they do.

There are roughly 6 times as many white people as black people in the USA and the rate of drug use is fairly equal between both. Studies show that roughly 13% of the people who use illegal drugs in the USA are black.  The limited data available regarding dealers indicates that people are more likely to purchase drugs from someone of the same race, so it's reasonable to assume that there are more white people selling drugs as well.

 
Yet 35% of all drug arrests are black people.  Even if you double the roughly 13% I mentioned previously, that number is still far too high.  This has nothing to do with environment, upbringing, or economics.  These are people committing the same crimes, yet black people are arrested and convicted more often.  I just don't see how it is possible to explain that discrepancy without saying that they are being targeted.
 

Let's back up a bit to Al Sharpton. The reports I read were that the police officers got off, partly at least, due to the lack of credible testimony on behalf of the victim. Witnesses contradicted themselves, mocked the court, and so on. Juries are actually strongly instructed as to their obligations while on a trial--they aren't allowed to simply vote as they feel so inclined.

So, they let the police officers off, whether they may have wanted to or not. I have sat on a jury where we did that--wasn't a murder case, was domestic abuse, and it came down to a he said-she said. All the jurors agreed we were more inclined to believe her, but felt we could not convict him without a single piece of corroborating evidenc--ie police reports, medical reports, which were not supplied. I even spoke to the prosecuting attorney afterwards and explained why we felt we could not convict him.

If Al Sharpton wants to do some good here, maybe he needs to take his boys out to the woodshed and teach them how to achieve things in court, instead of threatening to shut a city down.

Re Al Sharpton:

     Civil disobedience is an effective way to draw media attention to an issue.   It is time honored (see Henry David Thoreau/ghandi, etc.), but you have to be willing to pay the price--going to jail.  

     I wouldn't call his associates "boys" to their face, by the way.  

   I don't know what he could do in court to draw attention to his issue, esp. in a judicial system full of corrupt Bush appointees.  

   There are too many unarmed black men being killed recklessly by the NYPD.  The sociological reasons it happens are no doubt complex, but they do come down to racism--a view of black people that is prevelant among law enforcement.  

    I don't place much confidence in white juries (often comprised of those white voters who didn't finish college and support Hillary).  Remember the first white jury and the Rodney King verdict?  They had that on tape and they still got off.    Racism by law enforcement is a problem in this country.  

Murrog:

Let's back up a bit to Al Sharpton. The reports I read were that the police officers got off, partly at least, due to the lack of credible testimony on behalf of the victim. Witnesses contradicted themselves, mocked the court, and so on. Juries are actually strongly instructed as to their obligations while on a trial--they aren't allowed to simply vote as they feel so inclined.

So, they let the police officers off, whether they may have wanted to or not. I have sat on a jury where we did that--wasn't a murder case, was domestic abuse, and it came down to a he said-she said. All the jurors agreed we were more inclined to believe her, but felt we could not convict him without a single piece of corroborating evidenc--ie police reports, medical reports, which were not supplied.