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  • 06-04-2008 12:57 PM

    Patrick O'Bryant

     OK, so those of you who know me, know that I would love to see the Wolves give this kid a look. He still has tons of talent and potential, but, IMO, was just on the wrong team to start his career. Obviously it will depend a lot on what we do in the draft, but even if we grab a big in the draft I think he's worth a flier if they can get him cheap. He did really well in the D-League after being sent down.

    I just found this on Hoopshype; "Second-year center Patrick O'Bryant made it clear during the season that he has no interest in returning to a Nelson-led team"

    I don't blame him one bit either. A Don Nelson led team is the wrong place for a 7+ ft center. However, the Wolves would be a great place for him to get some minutes and develop with Big Al helping him and McHale helping him with footwork and all the intangibles that he's able to provide.

    I would really love to see them give this kid a serious look. 

  • 06-04-2008 2:04 PM In reply to

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    Chaos:

     OK, so those of you who know me, know that I would love to see the Wolves give this kid a look. He still has tons of talent and potential, but, IMO, was just on the wrong team to start his career. Obviously it will depend a lot on what we do in the draft, but even if we grab a big in the draft I think he's worth a flier if they can get him cheap. He did really well in the D-League after being sent down.

    I just found this on Hoopshype; "Second-year center Patrick O'Bryant made it clear during the season that he has no interest in returning to a Nelson-led team"

    I don't blame him one bit either. A Don Nelson led team is the wrong place for a 7+ ft center. However, the Wolves would be a great place for him to get some minutes and develop with Big Al helping him and McHale helping him with footwork and all the intangibles that he's able to provide.

    I would really love to see them give this kid a serious look. 

     

    Uff da. Man crush on Patrick O!!!!!!!! :) 

  • 06-05-2008 10:26 AM In reply to

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    Vendetta11:

    Uff da. Man crush on Patrick O!!!!!!!! :) 

    Nope. Just someone I believe that we have a realistic chance at obtaining and could grow along with this team. Also, he should be cheap enough where it's almost a no-lose situation. Even if he never amounted to anything more than a 2nd or 3rd string center. However, I can't see him getting outplayed by Chris Richard. His size alone would be an improvement over Richard. His numbers in the D-League were better than Richards too.
  • 06-05-2008 11:27 PM In reply to

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    Im all for that just dont break the bank for him like we did with Troy Hudson.

  • 06-07-2008 12:01 PM In reply to

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    wolvesdjr:

    Im all for that just dont break the bank for him like we did with Troy Hudson.

    OK, can I point out AGAIN that one of my main reasons for being so interested in Patrick O'Bryant is that he should be available for damn near the league minimum.

    My whole assertion for wanting to take a shot at him is because he's one of the few FA centers that we will actually probably be able to afford, and with that, he still has huge upside and potential, if he were to ever realize it. He would immediately become the best center on this roster (not counting Big Al and subject to the draft).

    Again, my assertion to go after him is because he should be inexpensive, we have a definite need for a defensive big, and he's a hometown boy that has had a rocky start in the NBA so might be more likely to come home. Also, he's young and could fit right in and grow with this team.

    NEVER have I said to spend alot (because we don't have a lot to spend) and NEVER have I even implied that he will come in and be an all-star or anything even remotely close. Maybe someday he could be a good, starting caliber center, but that will take hard work and time ...something the Wolves have the good fortune of being able to offer him. 

  • 06-07-2008 12:02 PM In reply to

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    wolvesdjr:

    Im all for that just dont break the bank for him like we did with Troy Hudson.

      Besides, we don't have KG here forcing the signing of his peeps anymore Wink
  • 06-09-2008 4:29 PM In reply to

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    Chaos:

    wolvesdjr:

    Im all for that just dont break the bank for him like we did with Troy Hudson.

      Besides, we don't have KG here forcing the signing of his peeps anymore Wink
     

    Hater....... Big Smile 

  • 06-10-2008 10:42 AM In reply to

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    Vendetta11:

    Hater....... Big Smile 

    Yeah, but it's that immature hate that you have for an ex-girlfriend.

    Wait... that actually makes it worse, doesn't it?

    LOL! 

  • 06-11-2008 12:44 PM In reply to

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    Chaos:

    Vendetta11:

    Hater....... Big Smile 

    Yeah, but it's that immature hate that you have for an ex-girlfriend.

    Wait... that actually makes it worse, doesn't it?

    LOL! 

     

    Whoa there! SLAM!!!! 

  • 06-27-2008 8:35 PM In reply to

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     Well, since we did virtually nothing regarding actually getting a true center in the draft, I'm even more convinced that they should be calling O'Bryant's reps as soon as free agency starts.

    Is it July 1st that it starts?

     

  • 06-27-2008 10:37 PM In reply to

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     Yes, it is. I too hope they aren't through for the season but, would not be surprised if they are. I know they will not use the mid level this year, they said so. They also said they were going to use the 2nd rounders for Euros a few months back so I was not surprised by the 2nd round at all. They said they don't want any more new young guys as they don't want to over do it on the youngsters but have a good balance of Vet's to young guys. So the only thing I see might happen is a trade for a vet but who knows they are what they are up there in the FO and the only thing you can say for sure is no one knows what the hell they will do.

  • 07-01-2008 1:26 PM In reply to

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    I see them focused on spending on Gomes and Telfair (for a fair price) before O'Bryant.  We will say, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

    Wittman’s credentials as a losing coach are unimpeachable.

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  • 07-01-2008 2:24 PM In reply to

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    Chaos:

     Well, since we did virtually nothing regarding actually getting a true center in the draft, I'm even more convinced that they should be calling O'Bryant's reps as soon as free agency starts.

    Do it! What do we have to lose? Nuffin'! We need to get some big bodies in here for Love. Er, I mean....

  • 07-05-2008 10:54 AM In reply to

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    Apparently he just had a pretty piss poor performance in Boston...

     

     The Celtics continued their search for a big man by working out Patrick O'Bryant, Golden State's first-round pick (ninth overall) out of Bradley in 2006. The 7-foot center showed decent range and solid footwork taking feeds in the post. But when he hit the low post against Wisconsin's Brian Butch and Detroit Mercy's Ryvon Covile, who had each been practicing since 9 in the morning, O'Bryant was tugging at his shorts not even 15 minutes into the drill, struggling to muster enough strength to defend either.

  • 07-05-2008 11:28 AM In reply to

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    He's soft. We don't need a slug like him on the roster. Collins is an adequate big man to put in if we need a bigger frontcourt than Al and Love.

     

  • 07-11-2008 6:10 PM In reply to

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     Doesn't matter the Celtics grabbed him with a 2 year deal.

  • 07-11-2008 8:34 PM In reply to

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    That's that then, I guess.

     

  • 07-11-2008 9:39 PM In reply to

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    No its a non guarenteed deal so he's still got to make the team in training camp. I putting my money on him being cut in camp so chances are good you can still grab the bust if you want him. If he's not in shape enough to make an impression at this point in his career he needs a serious turnaround just to stick in the NBA.

  • 07-12-2008 2:23 PM In reply to

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    Interesting. That is a team he could flourish with too. Now that he's out of the "big man killing" Nellie ball, he won't have any excuses. I still would've loved to have seen him sign with the Wolves, but it doesn't appear they even had him on their radar.
  • 07-12-2008 3:25 PM In reply to

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    The Celtics are hoping a more mature Patrick O'Bryant will reach his potential after failing to do so with Golden State. The Celtics signed the seldom-used 7-foot, 250-pound center yesterday to a two-year, $3 million contract, according to an NBA source. O'Bryant is expected to back up Kendrick Perkins. O'Bryant, 22, was the ninth pick in the 2006 NBA draft, but rarely played during two seasons with the Warriors. "I'm very thankful for the opportunity to come in the league and prove myself," said O'Bryant yesterday in a phone interview. "I didn't do a very good job the first two years. I need to prove I belong here and belong for a long time." Boston Globe

    The Celtics had interest in other free agent centers, such as New Orleans's Chris Andersen, Indiana's David Harrison, and New York's Randolph Morris, but O'Bryant impressed them during a workout July 4. Celtics general manager Danny Ainge doesn't expect to sign any other big men. It seems doubtful that injured center Scot Pollard will be re-signed by the Celtics, and P.J. Brown is expected to retire. Boston Globe

     

     

    So you're telling me that this guy impresses the NBA champions enough to end their search for a qualified backup... yet we couldn't find a spot on our roster. Our roster which has a bunch of undersized, 6'9 centers????? There is only one guy on our roster who is taller than 6'10 and that's Calivin Booth.

    Are you friggin' serious? I have never wanted to see a guy just blow up in the NBA as badly as I'd like to see this kid do it. I absolutely can't believe that the Wolves didn't make a play for him. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it; Patrick O'Bryant would be the best center on the Wolves roster the day he signed his contract. That's not a ringing endorsement of O'Bryant so much, as it's a indicator of how horrible we are at that position. Patrick O'Bryant made sense because A.) we could afford him B.) he's better than anything we currently have at that position, and C.) he still has a ton of untapped potential... potential that Nellie wouldn't know how to get out of a big man if his life depended on it.  How anyone can already say that O'Bryant is a bust... coming out of that system is ridiculous. Now if he still fails with the Celtics, then it's all on him.

    I can't friggin' believe they didn't even make a play for a guy that was good enough to now be the backup center for the world champions. A guy that "ended their search". Un-friggin-believable!

     

  • 07-13-2008 6:05 PM In reply to

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    For those of you who are still confused on the issue...the Wolves are going to make Al Jefferson their center. He's not "playing out of position" on this team. That's where they want him to play and that's exactly why they drafted Love. You and I might not agree with them that Jefferson should play center, but they want to make it his primary position.

    As for POB, meh... who cares. He's shown absolutely nothing in the NBA, and I fully expect he'll continue that trend until he eventally finds his way over to Europe. The report I read said that he got schooled by a couple of scrubs in his latest scrimmage; this article says that Boston likes him a lot. Who knows? If I had to guess, I'd say they like his 7'0" height and relatively cheap paycheck more than they like his basketball abilities.

    No big loss.

     

  • 07-13-2008 6:21 PM In reply to

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    Chaos:

     

    The Celtics are hoping a more mature Patrick O'Bryant will reach his potential after failing to do so with Golden State. The Celtics signed the seldom-used 7-foot, 250-pound center yesterday to a two-year, $3 million contract, according to an NBA source. O'Bryant is expected to back up Kendrick Perkins. O'Bryant, 22, was the ninth pick in the 2006 NBA draft, but rarely played during two seasons with the Warriors. "I'm very thankful for the opportunity to come in the league and prove myself," said O'Bryant yesterday in a phone interview. "I didn't do a very good job the first two years. I need to prove I belong here and belong for a long time." Boston Globe

    The Celtics had interest in other free agent centers, such as New Orleans's Chris Andersen, Indiana's David Harrison, and New York's Randolph Morris, but O'Bryant impressed them during a workout July 4. Celtics general manager Danny Ainge doesn't expect to sign any other big men. It seems doubtful that injured center Scot Pollard will be re-signed by the Celtics, and P.J. Brown is expected to retire. Boston Globe

     

     

    So you're telling me that this guy impresses the NBA champions enough to end their search for a qualified backup... yet we couldn't find a spot on our roster. Our roster which has a bunch of undersized, 6'9 centers????? There is only one guy on our roster who is taller than 6'10 and that's Calivin Booth.

    Are you friggin' serious? I have never wanted to see a guy just blow up in the NBA as badly as I'd like to see this kid do it. I absolutely can't believe that the Wolves didn't make a play for him. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it; Patrick O'Bryant would be the best center on the Wolves roster the day he signed his contract. That's not a ringing endorsement of O'Bryant so much, as it's a indicator of how horrible we are at that position. Patrick O'Bryant made sense because A.) we could afford him B.) he's better than anything we currently have at that position, and C.) he still has a ton of untapped potential... potential that Nellie wouldn't know how to get out of a big man if his life depended on it.  How anyone can already say that O'Bryant is a bust... coming out of that system is ridiculous. Now if he still fails with the Celtics, then it's all on him.

    I can't friggin' believe they didn't even make a play for a guy that was good enough to now be the backup center for the world champions. A guy that "ended their search". Un-friggin-believable!

     

    I think you are reading WAYYY too much into the idea that "he'll back up Parkins". He's a replacement for another guy who backed up perkins Scott Pollard who played almost never. It's not like they signed him to be the #2 center who is first off the bench and will start if Perkins is hurt.

    Chances are they look for a PJ brown replacement and the rotation goes like this

    Perkins (starter)

    KG (backup center in Small ball lineup)

    Pj Brown replacment

    Leon Powe/Big Baby will also see some center minutes

    Look at this year

     Perkins played 48% of the minutes at center

    KG played 13%\

    Davis 21

    Powe 7%

    that's over 85% of the center minutes returning and one would expect that Perkins would play more minutes with better health and experience and Davis and Powe are definitley in line for a minute increase. Let not jump off the deep and and consider PO the "backup center for the Cs_ He's an end of the bench roster filler project. The Celtics can have him becuase they don't need to expect anything from him.

     

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