Patrick O'Bryant
Last post 07-13-2008 6:21 PM by Toolatecrew. 21 replies.
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06-04-2008 12:57 PM
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Chaos



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OK, so those of you who know me, know that I would love to see the Wolves give this kid a look. He still has tons of talent and potential, but, IMO, was just on the wrong team to start his career. Obviously it will depend a lot on what we do in the draft, but even if we grab a big in the draft I think he's worth a flier if they can get him cheap. He did really well in the D-League after being sent down. I just found this on Hoopshype; "Second-year center Patrick O'Bryant made it clear during the season
that he has no interest in returning to a Nelson-led team" I don't blame him one bit either. A Don Nelson led team is the wrong place for a 7+ ft center. However, the Wolves would be a great place for him to get some minutes and develop with Big Al helping him and McHale helping him with footwork and all the intangibles that he's able to provide. I would really love to see them give this kid a serious look.
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Vendetta11


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Chaos: OK, so those of you who know me, know that I would love to see the Wolves give this kid a look. He still has tons of talent and potential, but, IMO, was just on the wrong team to start his career. Obviously it will depend a lot on what we do in the draft, but even if we grab a big in the draft I think he's worth a flier if they can get him cheap. He did really well in the D-League after being sent down. I just found this on Hoopshype; "Second-year center Patrick O'Bryant made it clear during the season
that he has no interest in returning to a Nelson-led team" I don't blame him one bit either. A Don Nelson led team is the wrong place for a 7+ ft center. However, the Wolves would be a great place for him to get some minutes and develop with Big Al helping him and McHale helping him with footwork and all the intangibles that he's able to provide. I would really love to see them give this kid a serious look. Uff da. Man crush on Patrick O!!!!!!!! :)
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Chaos



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wolvesdjr:Im all for that just dont break the bank for him like we did with Troy Hudson.
OK, can I point out AGAIN that one of my main reasons for being so interested in Patrick O'Bryant is that he should be available for damn near the league minimum. My whole assertion for wanting to take a shot at him is because he's one of the few FA centers that we will actually probably be able to afford, and with that, he still has huge upside and potential, if he were to ever realize it. He would immediately become the best center on this roster (not counting Big Al and subject to the draft). Again, my assertion to go after him is because he should be inexpensive, we have a definite need for a defensive big, and he's a hometown boy that has had a rocky start in the NBA so might be more likely to come home. Also, he's young and could fit right in and grow with this team. NEVER have I said to spend alot (because we don't have a lot to spend) and NEVER have I even implied that he will come in and be an all-star or anything even remotely close. Maybe someday he could be a good, starting caliber center, but that will take hard work and time ...something the Wolves have the good fortune of being able to offer him.
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Vendetta11


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Chaos: wolvesdjr:Im all for that just dont break the bank for him like we did with Troy Hudson. Besides, we don't have KG here forcing the signing of his peeps anymore  Hater.......
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Chaos



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Vendetta11:Hater.......
Yeah, but it's that immature hate that you have for an ex-girlfriend. Wait... that actually makes it worse, doesn't it? LOL!
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Vendetta11


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Chaos: Vendetta11:Hater.......
Yeah, but it's that immature hate that you have for an ex-girlfriend. Wait... that actually makes it worse, doesn't it? LOL! Whoa there! SLAM!!!!
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Chaos



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Well, since we did virtually nothing regarding actually getting a true center in the draft, I'm even more convinced that they should be calling O'Bryant's reps as soon as free agency starts. Is it July 1st that it starts?
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LabRat


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Chaos:
Well, since we did virtually nothing regarding actually getting a true center in the draft, I'm even more convinced that they should be calling O'Bryant's reps as soon as free agency starts.
Do it! What do we have to lose? Nuffin'! We need to get some big bodies in here for Love. Er, I mean....
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boognish


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He's soft. We don't need a slug like him on the roster. Collins is an adequate big man to put in if we need a bigger frontcourt than Al and Love.
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boognish


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That's that then, I guess.
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Chaos



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The Celtics are hoping a more mature Patrick O'Bryant will reach his potential after failing to do so with Golden State.
The Celtics signed the seldom-used 7-foot, 250-pound center yesterday
to a two-year, $3 million contract, according to an NBA source.
O'Bryant is expected to back up Kendrick Perkins. O'Bryant, 22, was the
ninth pick in the 2006 NBA draft, but rarely played during two seasons
with the Warriors. "I'm very thankful for the opportunity to come in
the league and prove myself," said O'Bryant yesterday in a phone
interview. "I didn't do a very good job the first two years. I need to
prove I belong here and belong for a long time." Boston Globe The
Celtics had interest in other free agent centers, such as New Orleans's
Chris Andersen, Indiana's David Harrison, and New York's Randolph Morris,
but O'Bryant impressed them during a workout July 4. Celtics general
manager Danny Ainge doesn't expect to sign any other big men. It seems
doubtful that injured center Scot Pollard will be re-signed by the
Celtics, and P.J. Brown is expected to retire. Boston Globe So you're telling me that this guy impresses the NBA champions enough to end their search for a qualified backup... yet we couldn't find a spot on our roster. Our roster which has a bunch of undersized, 6'9 centers????? There is only one guy on our roster who is taller than 6'10 and that's Calivin Booth.
Are you friggin' serious? I have never wanted to see a guy just blow up in the NBA as badly as I'd like to see this kid do it. I absolutely can't believe that the Wolves didn't make a play for him. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it; Patrick O'Bryant would be the best center on the Wolves roster the day he signed his contract. That's not a ringing endorsement of O'Bryant so much, as it's a indicator of how horrible we are at that position. Patrick O'Bryant made sense because A.) we could afford him B.) he's better than anything we currently have at that position, and C.) he still has a ton of untapped potential... potential that Nellie wouldn't know how to get out of a big man if his life depended on it. How anyone can already say that O'Bryant is a bust... coming out of that system is ridiculous. Now if he still fails with the Celtics, then it's all on him. I can't friggin' believe they didn't even make a play for a guy that was good enough to now be the backup center for the world champions. A guy that "ended their search". Un-friggin-believable!
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boognish


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For those of you who are still confused on the issue...the Wolves are going to make Al Jefferson their center. He's not "playing out of position" on this team. That's where they want him to play and that's exactly why they drafted Love. You and I might not agree with them that Jefferson should play center, but they want to make it his primary position.
As for POB, meh... who cares. He's shown absolutely nothing in the NBA, and I fully expect he'll continue that trend until he eventally finds his way over to Europe. The report I read said that he got schooled by a couple of scrubs in his latest scrimmage; this article says that Boston likes him a lot. Who knows? If I had to guess, I'd say they like his 7'0" height and relatively cheap paycheck more than they like his basketball abilities.
No big loss.
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Toolatecrew


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Chaos:
The Celtics are hoping a more mature Patrick O'Bryant will reach his potential after failing to do so with Golden State. The Celtics signed the seldom-used 7-foot, 250-pound center yesterday to a two-year, $3 million contract, according to an NBA source. O'Bryant is expected to back up Kendrick Perkins. O'Bryant, 22, was the ninth pick in the 2006 NBA draft, but rarely played during two seasons with the Warriors. "I'm very thankful for the opportunity to come in the league and prove myself," said O'Bryant yesterday in a phone interview. "I didn't do a very good job the first two years. I need to prove I belong here and belong for a long time." Boston Globe
The Celtics had interest in other free agent centers, such as New Orleans's Chris Andersen, Indiana's David Harrison, and New York's Randolph Morris, but O'Bryant impressed them during a workout July 4. Celtics general manager Danny Ainge doesn't expect to sign any other big men. It seems doubtful that injured center Scot Pollard will be re-signed by the Celtics, and P.J. Brown is expected to retire. Boston Globe
So you're telling me that this guy impresses the NBA champions enough to end their search for a qualified backup... yet we couldn't find a spot on our roster. Our roster which has a bunch of undersized, 6'9 centers????? There is only one guy on our roster who is taller than 6'10 and that's Calivin Booth.
Are you friggin' serious? I have never wanted to see a guy just blow up in the NBA as badly as I'd like to see this kid do it. I absolutely can't believe that the Wolves didn't make a play for him. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it; Patrick O'Bryant would be the best center on the Wolves roster the day he signed his contract. That's not a ringing endorsement of O'Bryant so much, as it's a indicator of how horrible we are at that position. Patrick O'Bryant made sense because A.) we could afford him B.) he's better than anything we currently have at that position, and C.) he still has a ton of untapped potential... potential that Nellie wouldn't know how to get out of a big man if his life depended on it. How anyone can already say that O'Bryant is a bust... coming out of that system is ridiculous. Now if he still fails with the Celtics, then it's all on him.
I can't friggin' believe they didn't even make a play for a guy that was good enough to now be the backup center for the world champions. A guy that "ended their search". Un-friggin-believable!
I think you are reading WAYYY too much into the idea that "he'll back up Parkins". He's a replacement for another guy who backed up perkins Scott Pollard who played almost never. It's not like they signed him to be the #2 center who is first off the bench and will start if Perkins is hurt.
Chances are they look for a PJ brown replacement and the rotation goes like this
Perkins (starter)
KG (backup center in Small ball lineup)
Pj Brown replacment
Leon Powe/Big Baby will also see some center minutes
Look at this year
Perkins played 48% of the minutes at center
KG played 13%\
Davis 21
Powe 7%
that's over 85% of the center minutes returning and one would expect that Perkins would play more minutes with better health and experience and Davis and Powe are definitley in line for a minute increase. Let not jump off the deep and and consider PO the "backup center for the Cs_ He's an end of the bench roster filler project. The Celtics can have him becuase they don't need to expect anything from him.
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